Logo Update Thread

[cameosis]

corrections:
Croatian Regional League - Gospić - ID 24000266

the image used in the database is outdated (coat of arms of Lika-Senj county).
correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source: https://nogometnisavezlsz.hr/

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Croatian Regional League - Zadar - ID 24000270

the image used used in the database is based on a stamp.
correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source: second from right, bottom row

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Croatian Regional League - Vukovar - ID 24000273

the image used in the database is the district football association, not the county association.
correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source: http://www.znsvs.hr/

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Croatian Regional League - Zagreb - ID 24000278

the image used in the database has minor incorrections.
correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source: https://zns.hr/

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Croatian Regional League - Osijek - ID 24000271

the image used in the database is incorrect.
please note that the official version is grammatically incorrect - »osnovano«.
instead, the correct form has to/should be - »osnovan«.
correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source: http://znsob.hr/

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Croatian Regional League - Bjelovar - ID 24000264

correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source: https://nsbbz.hr/

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Croatian Regional League - Slavonski Brod - ID 24000269

correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source:https://zns-bpz.hr/

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Croatian Regional League - Koprivnica - ID 24000263

correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source: http://ns-kckz.hr/

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Croatian Regional League - Karlovac - ID 24000261

correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source: http://nskz.hr/

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Croatian Regional League - Virovitica - ID 24000267

the image used on the county website is not the actual logo in use, the colors are off, too.
correct logo redrawn and visually improved.
source: https://www.icv.hr/

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Edited April 18, 2022 by cameosis

[Derek]

Thanks guys. Great work

[cameosis]

apologies in advance for posting doubles, i.e. logos that are already in the packs, i’m a bit anal about details - sometimes official sources are the worst, but i’ll get to that later and post a few examples.

all the images have been processed by me, regardless of source format, so they’ve been cleaned up and prepped.

Kosovo - ID 217945

federation and team logo, respectively
source: https://www.ffk-kosova.com/

 

Georgia - ID 770

federation and team logo, respectively
source: federation / team

Botswana - ID 8

federation logo. they have used elements of the country’s coat of arms and a clipart image of a player. i believe this to be the cleanest version out to date.

source: http://www.bfa.co.bw/ / player

Eswatini - ID 47

Namibia - ID 36

drop shadow removed, usage is inconsistent anway, see source: https://neweralive.na/

South Africa - ID 45

made the football symmetrical, cleaned up the country’s silhouette and made the distance between the dividing lines even, also improved kerning (typography).

 

Tanzania - ID 48

mostly typographic tweaks, centered the football. without and with gradient (i prefer flat design and usually remove effects).

Zimbabwe - ID 55

without effect. the federation’s application of effects and graphic elements is all over the place. if you want, i can add gradients, there are all kinds of variants of the logo in use, however. someone at the federation used a psd template with glass / polish effect, i even have the file somewhere.

 

Benin - ID 7

Ethiopia - ID 18

Senegal - ID 41

made the overlaying football pattern symmetrical and improved kerning (typography), cleaned up the paths (outlines).

Somalia - ID 44

Chad - ID 14

the player on the crest has very likely been copied back and forth between kit suppliers, officials, (and i am positive that the images had to be converted from bitmap to vector) until the graphic element lost all the distinguishing features and became a blob.

if you zoom into the attached source file of this historic federation logo, you will see that the player actually has a face and even fingers can be made out.

here is the logo with the details of the player restored:

Central African Republic - ID 13

the same blob story applies to the central african republic, have a look at the different silhouettes used for and on the logos:

i’ve picked a silhouette that doesn’t deviate far from the official one, yet is clean and well proportioned. the text has been spaced and aligned to flow better with the shape of the crest and not look like an afterthought.

Edited April 18, 2022 by cameosis

[cameosis]

Sint-Maarten - ID 917506

curiously, this one has been flying under the radar for at least five years, both in regard to federation name and logo (both outdated) -- even concacaf lists the wrong logo and name. the entry in the database is wrong.

St. Maarten Football Federation

source: https://www.facebook.com/SXMFFed
source: jersey 2017/2018

[Derek]

Thanks @cameosis

Some really great work there mate. 

[AndreaSSL1900]

@cameosis great work mate 

[AndreaSSL1900]

On 4/8/2022 at 7:54 AM, AndreaSSL1900 said:

Better quality logo Lajatico - ID 43386675

 

 

 

On 4/11/2022 at 1:03 PM, AndreaSSL1900 said:

New logo Carpaneto Chero - ID 43386392



Old logo Carpaneto



they changed from USD to ASD on the logo, removed the word Vigor and moved the name Carpaneto on the left, added the name Chero and moved the year of foundation down on the right.
I apologize for the quality of the image mate but it is the only one I found with the new logo. I posted the image of the old logo to you hoping it will help you and I hope you can recreate the new logo with these changes

@cameosis Mate are you able to create a clean version of these two logos? Lajatico and Carpaneto Chero 

[cameosis]

1 hour ago, AndreaSSL1900 said:

@cameosis Mate are you able to create a clean version of these two logos? Lajatico and Carpaneto Chero 

lajatico maybe -- i can do a quick and dirty version for you as a placeholder, if you want. simply put, i can basically autotrace the images and convert them into vectors, then export the result in bigger size. it will look crappy, however.

i’ll show you what i mean in a short while.

carpaneto chero would take too long, to be honest. the amount of detail in the crown and tree is staggering, and i would need a high resolution source for it to be acceptable. then there’s the typeface. very idiosyncratic, but would have to be sourced as well.

all the images i have posted so far are png exports from vectors, i work with illustrator.

lajatico - as a temporary solution it’s acceptable, but for a clean recreation a much better source is mandatory. i believe the club itself only has an old black and white copy of the crest and this is why the logo looks the way it does.

the shield is unrecognizable, for example. we have the same problem here as with chad.

Edited April 19, 2022 by cameosis

[cameosis]

Ghana - ID 21

alternate typeface to beef it up a bit (too many federations and clubs use arial, helvetica or times and the fonts supplied with coreldraw or windows office …).

Cameroon - ID 11

in french and spanish, it is perfectly acceptable to omit diacritics when words or abbreviations are typed in all capital letters, the same goes for the tonos mark in greek. i prefer to keep them, so here’s an alternate version of the cameroonian federation logo.

[cameosis]

corrections:

Ukraine - ID 800

the logo and the name in the database are outdated.
source: federation / team

Germany - ID 771

the federation and the team logo in the database are outdated.
source: federation / team

Kuwait - ID 120

federation logo

Iraq - ID 115

federation logo

Czechia - ID 763

federation and team logo, respectively

Albania - ID 752

federation and team logo, respectively

Austria - ID 755

team logo

Cyprus, South - ID 762

federation and team logo, respectively

Greece - ID 772

team logo

Ireland, South - ID 789

team logo

Iceland - ID 774

team logo

Latvia - ID 777

team logo

Liechtenstein - ID 778

team logo

Moldova - ID 783

team logo

Poland - ID 787

team logo

Romania - ID 790

team logo

Russia - ID 791

team logo

San Marino - ID 792

team logo

Slovakia - ID 794

team logo

Spain - ID 796

team logo

Sweden - ID 797

team logo

Switzerland - ID 798

team logo

Turkey - ID 799

team logo

Wales - ID 801

team logo

Edited April 19, 2022 by cameosis

[cameosis]

correction:

Canton League of HBZ/ZHZ - ID 2000005596

the logo in the database is incorrect. the map of bosnia-herzegovina and the location of the canton are not part of the logo.
source: https://znszhb.com/

[AndreaSSL1900]

3 hours ago, cameosis said:

carpaneto chero would take too long, to be honest. the amount of detail in the crown and tree is staggering, and i would need a high resolution source for it to be acceptable. then there’s the typeface. very idiosyncratic, but would have to be sourced as well.

 

 

 

 

 

@cameosis @Derek Here the updated logo in good quality

ID 43386392
 

[AndreaSSL1900]

3 hours ago, cameosis said:

lajatico - as a temporary solution it’s acceptable, but for a clean recreation a much better source is mandatory. i believe the club itself only has an old black and white copy of the crest and this is why the logo looks the way it does.

 

the shield is unrecognizable, for example. we have the same problem here as with chad.

This picture is used like profile picture on the official Facebook page of Lajatico and unfortunately is the only good picture you can find about this team. It's really hard find a good picture of this logo on the web 

I've found another one but the problem with the shield doesn't change 

[cameosis]

23 minutes ago, AndreaSSL1900 said:

this one is smaller resolution, but i can tell that the template is much better even at this size, it’s a lot cleaner, and i think this is drawn, not scanned or copied. by the way, note the different typeface. this is the case with so many lower league clubs, they just pick what is available and use it. then you end up having several different variants of the club logo at the same time …

maybe the rose from the city coat of arms? but this is speculation. look where carpaneto chero got the stone crown from.

https://www.araldicacivica.it/

there is another logo for lajatico, is this one historic?

tuttocampo is down at the moment …

Edited April 19, 2022 by cameosis

[cameosis]

correction:

Polish Third Division - ID 129560

the logo in the database is incorrect. this is the correct logo.
source: https://pzpn.pl/

 

[Derek]

Brilliant work @cameosis we appreciate the help mate.

[AndreaSSL1900]

11 hours ago, cameosis said:

this one is smaller resolution, but i can tell that the template is much better even at this size, it’s a lot cleaner, and i think this is drawn, not scanned or copied. by the way, note the different typeface. this is the case with so many lower league clubs, they just pick what is available and use it. then you end up having several different variants of the club logo at the same time …

maybe the rose from the city coat of arms? but this is speculation. look where carpaneto chero got the stone crown from.

https://www.araldicacivica.it/

there is another logo for lajatico, is this one historic?

tuttocampo is down at the moment …

Yes that's the old logo. Tuttocampo sometimes forget to update logos like in this case for Lajatico, it's why i've been crazy for months since January when the first version of the Italian DB I use was released, to find a good quality logo of this fucking team

I made the research and all the italian pyramid logos, seven tiers has been updated in the latest update. The only two missing are these one, Carpaneto Chero cause the logo has been recently updated and Lajatico cause untill now we can't found a good quality logo 

[cameosis]

@AndreaSSL1900 have you contacted them directly on facebook or by email and asked about the logo? i know that many smaller clubs don’t necessarily answer, but i get feedback or help very often, too. worth a try.

you can also tell them that they’ll get a vector logo in return if they provide a high resolution template.

 

[AndreaSSL1900]

4 hours ago, cameosis said:

@AndreaSSL1900 have you contacted them directly on facebook or by email and asked about the logo? i know that many smaller clubs don’t necessarily answer, but i get feedback or help very often, too. worth a try.

you can also tell them that they’ll get a vector logo in return if they provide a high resolution template.

 

Yes i contacted them by email that was available on Tuttocampo page about them and the referent sent me a picture but is different from the official logo, nothing to do with it



It's this one. How you can see is different but finally we could understand what is the symbol on the eagle head: probably a crown?  but this one seems to be completely different from the object on the shield. The tower with the clock symbol of the country, is not in the least like the one on the original shield and the flags on the sides of the tower are missing. This makes me think it's a non-original logo that someone created to try to recreate the original logo as likely as possible.

This is the tower represented in the logo

[cameosis]

wow, i like this one a lot, actually.

what i learned over the decades of collecting and drawing logos is that most people who are affiliated with a smaller club (and sometimes even a bigger club) usually look at football crests the same way they look at heraldry.

in other words, as long as it meets the description, it works for them. let's take lajatico and these two logos as an example:

if you never saw the logo and i had to describe it to you, i would say it's a pointed triangular shield with a blue border.

on top it says u.s. lajatico, in the middle it depicts a crowned eagle sitting atop the tower of lajatico and at the bottom you have the year of foundation 1963.

this is what both versions of the logo have in common. they look totally different, but they both show the same thing regardless. it's a general reference, not a unique description. for big clubs or federations, branding and consistent corporate identity are very important, so naturally they make it clear what the official or »correct« logo at any given time is and if it looks different, it's not »their« logo.

with small clubs and federations, they have other prioirities, it's often volunteer work, lack of funds etc.

so some dude shows up and asks for a logo ... how weird - what kind of person collects football logos, they must be as crazy as stamp collectors. i'll send him this one that i have on my computer or one that gianluca/andrew/fritz made recently for this and that purpose.

i had similar conversations more than i can count, then you ask them »but which one is official?«

how do you mean official, it is official, club name, eagle on tower, year of foundation, period.

two german clubs where i played have simple but nice shields installed on the club house. when you look at the web sites or facebook pages, it pains me, because the online versions are not very attractive the way they are drawn, but this is how everyone sees the club logo who is not a local or has ever been to the ground and seen the club shield in person.

the person who is the webmaster or responsible for the internet presentation is the one making the logo and that's it. it's one of the reasons why so many smaller clubs just pick shields from popular clubs and add their name or change a few elements. most don't have this deep interest into DESIGNING a logo. they want to play matches and hang out with their club mates and drink in their free time.

this makes recreating logos both frustrating and easy, often at the same time. sometimes when i recreated a logo and contacted a club official, they would take my version. there are facebook pages, where the webmaster is experimenting and you can see four or five different club logos as the profile picture.

or, to go back to the chad football federation, the player has become unrecognizable but that blob is the »official« version ...

the old logo from glasgow rangers, look at the lion ...

before they decided to redesign it (big improvement), i had used the lion from the scottish fa in my recreation, because it looked much better for me.

anyway, enough of my blabla. it's possible that both are valid, the one on facebook and this one you posted now. i can tell you one thing, though: sooner or later, we will get the logo in big resolution.

i was the first one who ever made a complete list of all active leagues and clubs in croatia in 2006/2007 and 2007/2008. i live in germany, back then only a handful of first league clubs even had a web site, so this took almost a year to find all the info, league names, club names just by searching online. forget about logos back then.

but today, every club either has an fb page or website, instagram, twitter, or a blogger is posting or on some forum there is a logo section etc. so it has become a lot easier to find and it will become even easier in the future with reverse image search (i wish i had that 16 years ago!).

i had good results with contacting municipalities or local administration, sometimes they are also at the club or they can give additional information about the heraldic elements.

Edited April 20, 2022 by cameosis

[AndreaSSL1900]

At the end of this long discussion on Lajatico logo, i suggest to use this one like official logo 



I know it's not perfect but it's the official logo that can be found everywhere; facebook page, website and official material

Are you agree? @Derek

[Derek]

Sure ok I'll go with that.

[AndreaSSL1900]

New logo Duncannon - ID 52032568

New logo FC Ommen - ID 37066360

New logo Valtsi Vladimirovtsi - ID 22087414

New logo Botev Golyamo Vranovo - ID 7500397

New logo Botev 57 SOU Sofia - 22073158

New logo Obelyasiti Obelya - ID 7500411

New logo Urvich Pancharevo - ID 22003974

New logo Levski Dolna banya - ID 7504007

New logo Zenit Filipovtsi - ID 22036332

New logo Kremikovtsi Botunets - ID 7508877

New logo Yunak Kormyansko - ID 22017479

[spankz]

Estonian clubs that are currently available @ FM22, also update for the estonian cup. Most logos are from jalgpall.ee and crosschecked with their website/socials.

 

Flora vector: https://fcflora.ee/klubi-fc-flora-logo/

Tammeka vector: https://www.jktammeka.ee/copy-of-ajalugu

FC Santos (svg): https://wjksantos.ee/ (if you want it w/o subtext)

Welco (svg): https://www.jkwelco.ee/ (if you want it w/o subtext)

FCI Tallinn vector: https://fcitallinn.com/en/club/logos/

FC Phoenix (svg): https://fcphoenix.ee/

 

For TJK Legion I used the Tallinn one since they used it now, even tho their kits still has the Estonia one.

(skipped one logo, cause I couldn't get a clean cut out of all the effects and shadows: 47016164 Merkuur)

 

Spoiler

comps:

7681867 updated cup logo

(can be skipped: 31000110 cleaner version of the FA logo for the supercup)

new/updated logos:

746 Flora
514345 Tulevik
5220102 Elva
5220188 Sillamäe Kalev
5220196 Tammeka
7681010 FC Santos
31000336 Paide LM
31000541 Irbis
31000542 Ararat/TTÜ
31000548 TJK Legion
31000552 Rada
47008695 Pärnu Tervis
47052802 Welco
47070349 Vaprus (P)
71065015 Maardu
2000020049 Tartu Kalev

improvements:

751 Trans
514350 Kuressaare
514352 Valga
7681007 Ajax Lasnamäe
7681543 Kalju
31000300 Tarvastu
31000330 Nõmme Utd
31000335 Tabasalu
31000337 Kernu
31000371 Fauna
31000545 Tarvas
31000546 FC Lokomotiv
31000550 Dünamo
31000553 Piraaja
31001109 Tallinna Olympic
31001111 Keila
31001112 Saue
31001229 Koeru
47034948 Vaprus (V)
47049429 Noorus-96
47049921 Retro
47049994 Suure-Jaani
47050064 Ganvix
47050128 Strommi
47056351 Tallinn C.F.
47064302 Joker
47065897 Zenit Tallinn
47067842 Eston Villa
47067850 Toompea
47069953 FCI Tallinn
47070236 Järva-Jaani
47073319 Viimsi
47080769 Helios (V)
47084598 Volta
47090152 JK Poseidon
47101555 Anija
47101569 EMÜ SK
47101599 Jõgeva Wolves
47104445 Läänemaa
2000017865 ReUnited
2000060571 Raplamaa

added logos:

2000085394 Harju
2000085397 FC Alliance
2000085398 FC Tallinn
2000092799 Aruküla
2000092804 Maardu Aliens
2000092814 Otepää
2000092816 FC Sillamäe
2000092817 Tallinna Wolves
2000092821 Vastseliina
2000092824 Äksi Wolves *
2000092828 Kuusalu Kalev
2000092831 JK Loo
2000092832 FC Phoenix
2000092835 Kohila Püsivus
2000092836 Kristiine JK
2000092838 FC IGI
2000092839 Märjamaa Kompanii
2000092842 Pakri SK
2000092845 Põhja-Sakala
2000092847 Lootos
2000092848 Rummu Dünamo
2000092849 Rumori Calcio
2000092852 JK aameraaS
2000092857 Saku Sporting
2000092860 SK Imavere
2000092862 SK Kadrina **
2000092865 Hell Hunt
2000092868 Pocarr
2000092869 Reaal
2000092870 Soccernet
2000092871 Zapoos
2000092872 Teleios
2000092873 TransferWise
2000092874 Augur ***
2000092876 Jalgpallihaigla
2000092877 Helios (T)
2000092879 TRT77
2000092880 Viimsi Lõvid

* linked to Jõgeva Wolves, see https://jalgpall.ee/voistlused/137/team/4007 - don't seem to have an own logo
** used the coat of arms for Kadrina, since they use that on their kits: https://www.facebook.com/Kadrina-Vitamin-Well-160428774665587/photos/938601086848348
*** used the golden one, because the all black could be hard too see on darker skins

 

estonia.zip

Edited April 20, 2022 by spankz

[Derek]

Thanks @spankz and @AndreaSSL1900 I'll add these to the packs guys.