Relvidge01 Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Looking to create a multi club ownership. Asked ai to help create, added as much detail as I can, live your work will definitely leave a donation if you can help. Orion Football Collective Parent Company: Orion Technologies – A multinational AI and sustainability firm. Global Vision: Create the world’s most forward-thinking football collective, blending cutting-edge technology, sustainable investment, and aggressive modern football. Shared Identity Colours: Midnight Navy (Primary) Electric Cyan (Secondary) Silver (Trim & Detailing) Badge Design Language: Stylised "O" as a unifying shape 3 stars from the Orion Belt constellation on every crest Crest typography uses custom typeface: Orion Neue – a futuristic geometric sans-serif font, uppercase only. Tactical Identity: High pressing, aggressive attacking football (4-3-3 or 3-4-2-1) Vertical passing, dynamic transitions Tactical standardization across clubs for fluid player movement Recruitment Philosophy: Heavy use of data-driven scouting & analytics Focus on undervalued regions and youth academies Promote former players into coaching/leadership roles End Goal: Build a tiered global network of talent that funnels elite players into Orion Darlington, the flagship club Collective Motto: "Ex Astris, Virtus" (Latin: From the stars, strength) Collective Slogan: "One Vision. Many Paths." 1. Orion Lyonnais (France) Formerly: AS Nancy Lorraine League: Ligue 2 Stadium: Orion Stadium Marcel Carnot Capacity: 22,500 Recent improvements: Retractable roof, LED floodlights, upgraded media & VIP areas, accessibility ramps. Facilities Ratings: Training Facilities: 17/20 — Hybrid grass pitches, advanced recovery tech, biomechanical analysis. Youth Facilities: 16/20 — Indoor training hall, education rooms, year-round training support. Youth Recruitment: 16/20 Junior Coaching: 15/20 Region Focus: Lorraine & North African diaspora Crest & Typography: Gear-shaped "O", thistle in center Orion Belt stars above “ORION LYONNAIS” on upper arc “FONDÉ EN 1910” on lower arc (silver) Philosophy: Technically gifted, intelligent youth Ties to French industry and multicultural identity Feeds into Darlington and Phoenix Nickname: Les Gears Primary Rivalry: FC Metz – Lorraine Inferno (fierce regional rivalry, contested since the early 20th century) Secondary Rivalries: Sochaux – Frontier Forge Derby (named for industrial heritage of both cities, close regional proximity) RC Strasbourg – historic Alsace-Lorraine tension, especially in Ligue 1 or cup ties Smaller/Local Rivalries: CS Sedan Ardennes – Northern France rivalry US Orléans – less intense, but geographically reasonable Stade Reims – potential rivalry based on competition in similar tiers Motto: "Ingéniosité et Fierté" (Ingenuity and Pride) Slogan: "Forged in Lorraine, Ready for the Future" Kits: Home: Navy w/ Electric Cyan pinstripes, thistle watermark Away: Cyan with navy sash Third: Silver with subtle fleur-de-lis pattern 2. Orion Darlington FC (England) Formerly: Darlington FC League: National League Stadium: Orion Rail Park Capacity: 12,000 (expanding to 15,000 planned) Recent improvements: Partial new roof, hybrid grass pitch, modern changing rooms, medical facilities. Facilities Ratings: Training Facilities: 16/20 — Renovated outdoor pitches, floodlighting, cryotherapy chambers. Youth Facilities: 15/20 — Indoor synthetic pitch, upgraded classroom space. Youth Recruitment: 14/20 Junior Coaching: 16/20 Role: Flagship & Apex Club Crest & Typography: Locomotive wheel "O" with compass inside “ORION DARLINGTON FC” around wheel “EST. 1883” beneath compass Philosophy: Receives top talent from other clubs Long-term vision to return to the Premier League Former pros in leadership roles (e.g., captains as DoFs) Nickname: The Locos Primary Rivalry: Hartlepool United – Tees-Rail Derby (inspired by rail heritage and Tees proximity) Secondary Rivalries: Middlesbrough – Cleveland Clash (big club/small club tension, northeast connection) York City – regional and non-league historical clashes Smaller/Local Rivalries: Sunderland – Northeast pride fixture Carlisle United – lower-league proximity battles Gateshead – potential local tension if they rise Motto: "In Ferro Veritas" (In Steel, We Trust) Slogan: "Tracks to the Top" Kits: Home: Navy w/ rail-track chest band Away: Cyan gradient Third: Silver w/ industrial brick motif 3. Orion Kagawa United (Japan) Formerly: Kamatamare Sanuki League: J3 League Stadium: Orion Wave Stadium Capacity: 30,000 Recent improvements: Partial cantilever roof, ergonomic seating, improved accessibility, LED floodlights. Facilities Ratings: Training Facilities: 15/20 — Multiple outdoor pitches, advanced fitness tracking gym. Youth Facilities: 14/20 — Dedicated academy building with dorms, classrooms, video analysis suites. Youth Recruitment: 13/20 Junior Coaching: 14/20 Region Focus: Shikoku & East Asia Crest & Typography: “O” as udon swirl Sea waves and sunburst behind “ORION KAGAWA UNITED” (top arc) “香川ユナイテッド” (bottom arc) Philosophy: Technical speed, high-tempo tactics Modern training with AI biomechanics Coaches with roots in J-League (e.g., Keisuke Honda) Nickname: The Swirls Primary Rivalry: Tokushima Vortis – Shikoku Showdown (local island derby, key regional rivalry) Secondary Rivalries: Ehime FC – Setouchi Skirmish (name drawn from the Seto Inland Sea region) V-Varen Nagasaki – regional rivalry, often in the same J2 tier Smaller/Local Rivalries: Renofa Yamaguchi – same league tier, sporadic but spirited FC Gifu – developing competitive edge Motto: 進化と調和 (Shinka to Chōwa — Evolution & Harmony) Slogan: "Shikoku Rising" Kits: Home: Navy w/ wave pattern Away: Cyan with udon swirl watermark Third: Silver with vertical kite stripes 4. Orion Abidjan FC (Ivory Coast) Formerly: Stade d’Abidjan League: Ivorian Ligue 1 tadium: Orion Baobab Stadium Capacity: 35,000 Recent improvements: Complete roof renovation, hybrid pitch, new scoreboard, upgraded lighting. Facilities Ratings: Training Facilities: 16/20 — Outdoor fields with improved drainage, elite conditioning gym. Youth Facilities: 15/20 — Expanded academy campus, medical center, boarding facilities. Youth Recruitment: 17/20 Junior Coaching: 15/20 Region Focus: West Africa & Francophone scouting Crest & Typography: “O” shaped tusks Cocoa pod in center Akan-pattern border “ORION ABIDJAN FC” top arc “DEPUIS 1936” in brush-style script Philosophy: Premier African talent pipeline Physical + technical blend Strong community roots and school system Nickname: The Tusks Primary Rivalry: ASEC Mimosas – Abidjan Gold Derby (ASEC’s gold colours, both based in Abidjan, most historic fixture) Secondary Rivalries: Africa Sports National – Treize Commune Clash (named after Abidjan’s 13 communes) Williamsville AC – younger club but fast-growing rivalry Smaller/Local Rivalries: USC Bassam – historic ties, low-key but competitive AS Denguélé – from Odienné, potential rural-urban clash Motto: "La Gloire à Travers Nos Racines" (Glory Through Our Roots) Slogan: "Tusks Up, Eyes Forward" Kits: Home: Navy with tribal chest band Away: Cyan with cocoa pod texture Third: Silver with traditional textile motifs 5. Orion Phoenix SC (USA – MLS Expansion) New Franchise Stadium: Orion Arena Capacity: 25,000 Altitude: ~1,100 m (3,600 ft) above sea level Features: Retractable roof, solar-powered lighting/cooling, fan-focused design. Facilities Ratings: Training Facilities: 19/20 — Cutting-edge complex, altitude chambers, advanced rehab centers. Youth Facilities: 18/20 — State-of-the-art academy with classrooms, dorms, video labs, sports science integration. Youth Recruitment: 18/20 Junior Coaching: 17/20 Region Focus: North America & Latin American dual nationals Crest & Typography: Phoenix bird forms circuit “O” Digital feathers and desert sun “ORION PHOENIX SC” across wings “INAUGURAL SEASON 2026” bottom curve Philosophy: Tactical testing ground AI in matchday coaching Fully bilingual setup (English & Spanish) Nickname: The Circuit Birds / The Sparks Primary Rivalry: Real Salt Lake – Desert Sun Derby (both clubs in arid southwest, natural regional rivalry) Secondary Rivalries: LA Galaxy – Sunset Strip Clash (California vs Arizona, west coast influence) Colorado Rapids – High Plains Derby (altitude and mountain-based rivalry) Smaller/Local Rivalries: San Diego FC – likely new MLS franchise; geographic tension Las Vegas Lights (if they ever enter MLS) – Desert Lights Derby (rivalry of tourism and heat) Motto: "Ex Cineribus, Ascendimus" (From the ashes, we rise) Slogan: "Built to Burn Bright" Kits: Home: Navy with Phoenix rising graphic Away: Cyan with solar flare Third: Silver with circuit feather shoulders Orion Football Collective (Fully Compiled + Financial Strategy) Shared Financial Strategy Phase 1: Injection Phase Heavy Orion Technologies investment in infrastructure, data/scouting networks, academies, and initial talent influx. Phase 2: Efficiency Phase Player development and sales become the main revenue model. Investment scales down, and clubs aim for self-sustainability through TV rights, commercial growth, and player sales. Phase 3: Feeder-Support Model Clubs fund themselves but continue to support Orion Darlington with elite talent, managerial staff, and analytics data. 1. Orion Lyonnais (France – Ligue 2) Initial Backing: HIGH – ~€35M invested in academy redevelopment, stadium modernization, and player acquisition. Sustainability Target: Ligue 1 stability by Year 4, then adopt a sell-to-reinvest model. Revenue Focus: Player trading (North African & French dual nationals) Local TV rights & licensing Feeder deals with PSG & Lyon before becoming competitors Financial Model Phase: Early Phase 2 – transitioning toward balanced books 2. Orion Darlington FC (England – National League) Initial Backing: VERY HIGH – ~£50M invested. Fast-tracked promotions via best-in-league wages, AI analytics, and commercial marketing. Sustainability Target: Self-sufficient by League One, modest spending in the Championship, then fully stable in the Premier League. Revenue Focus: Gate receipts (Darlington Arena holds 25,000+) Media rights once in EFL Global merchandise as flagship brand Financial Model Phase: Late Phase 1, targeting Phase 2 at Championship level 3. Orion Kagawa United (Japan – J3 League) Initial Backing: MEDIUM-HIGH – ~¥800M (approx. €5M) focused on scouting, analytics lab, and regional youth partnerships. Sustainability Target: Sustainable at J2 level via development and exports to Europe/MLS. Revenue Focus: Selling young talent abroad Local merchandising and community partnerships Corporate sponsorship from regional tech companies Financial Model Phase: Mid Phase 1 – scaling up with clear exit goals on top talent 4. Orion Abidjan FC (Ivory Coast – Ligue 1) Initial Backing: MEDIUM – ~€3–5M equivalent invested mostly in infrastructure, housing for youth, and grassroots scouting. Sustainability Target: Fully self-sustaining by Year 3. Act as Africa’s prime exporter of elite youth talent. Revenue Focus: Player sales to Europe, especially France and Belgium Partnerships with local schools Academy tournaments (sponsored) Financial Model Phase: Early Phase 2, already generating player revenue 5. Orion Phoenix SC (USA – MLS Expansion) Initial Backing: VERY HIGH – ~$150M total expansion & setup budget (MLS expansion fee, stadium build, DP signings) Sustainability Target: Breaking even by Year 5, profitability by Year 7 via commercial growth and youth talent sales Revenue Focus: Expansion excitement: Season tickets + merch TV deals + national exposure Future player exports to Europe + dual-national USMNT projects Financial Model Phase: Early Phase 1, needs 3–5 years of high spend before stabilizing Investment Summary Table Club Backing Level Spend Focus Sustainability Target Model Phase Orion Lyonnais High Academy, stadium, players Ligue 1 stability Early Phase 2 Orion Darlington Very High Rapid promotions, media, academy EFL Championship Late Phase 1 Orion Kagawa United Medium-High Scouting tech, local youth J2/J1 sales model Mid Phase 1 Orion Abidjan Medium Infrastructure, coaching, schools Talent export engine Early Phase 2 Orion Phoenix Very High Stadium, DPs, marketing Year 5 breakeven Early Phase 1 Orion Football Collective (Transfer Strategy, FM Budgets, and Commercial Partners) Shared Transfer Philosophy Focus on undervalued markets and players under 24 All clubs prioritize data-led scouting, personality metrics, and tactical compatibility Free agent optimization (especially at lower-tier clubs) Each club targets 1–2 future “Orion Darlington pathway” players per year 1. Orion Lyonnais (France – Ligue 2) Transfer Policy: Target: North African dual nationals, reserve team talent from Ligue 1 Use loan-to-buy and free transfers from elite academies (e.g. Monaco, PSG) Sell to Ligue 1 and Bundesliga FM2024 Budget (Start Estimate): Transfer: €5M Wage: €70K/week Board Expectation: Top-half finish, push for promotion 2. Orion Darlington FC (England – National League) Transfer Policy: Poach top young talents from League Two & Northern academies Offer first-team football to Premier League loanees Internal promotion from collective clubs (especially Abidjan & Kagawa) FM2024 Budget (Start Estimate): Transfer: £6M Wage: £110K/week Board Expectation: Promotion to League Two 3. Orion Kagawa United (Japan – J3 League) Transfer Policy: Sign university prospects & U21s from J1 academies First-mover advantage on South Korean, Thai, and Vietnamese gems Send 1–2 stars per season to Darlington or Phoenix FM2024 Budget (Start Estimate): Transfer: ¥150M (~€1M) Wage: ¥3.2M/week (~€20K/week) Board Expectation: Mid-table, promote within 2 years 4. Orion Abidjan FC (Ivory Coast – Ligue 1) Transfer Policy: Sign U17–U21s from across West Africa Sell to Ligue 2, Belgium, and Dutch Eredivisie Develop elite dual-nationals with French passports FM2024 Budget (Start Estimate): Transfer: €500K Wage: €12K/week Board Expectation: Top 4 finish and youth development Orion Cup — Annual Multi-Club Invitational Concept: A pre-season or early-season friendly tournament featuring all 5 Orion clubs. Emphasizes youth player development, tactical experimentation, and building intra-group rivalry. Rotates host club each year to boost local fan engagement. Timing: Late July to early August Fits nicely before European leagues kick off fully and ahead of MLS opening weeks, allowing all teams to participate without fixture congestion. Format: Group Stage + Final 2 groups of 2 or 3 teams depending on the year (with some clubs getting a bye or a playoff spot rotating yearly) Short matches (60-75 minutes each) to avoid fatigue Bonus points awarded for goals scored and clean sheets to encourage attacking, aggressive playstyle Branding & Trophy: Trophy Name: The Orion Stellar Shield Design: Sleek metallic shield with elements representing each club’s unique badge iconography embedded in the design. Prize: Trophy, cash bonus for club youth academy, and scouting recognition. Additional perks: Global media coverage streaming on Orion’s digital platform. Scouting showcase: Promising youth players earn “Orion Cup Rising Star” awards. Data analytics sessions post-tournament to improve player and team development. 1. Orion Lyonnais (formerly AS Nancy) Manager: Grégory Proment Former Nancy midfielder and youth coach. Experienced in academy development and FM24-available. Sporting Director: Julien Féret Ex-Nancy and Caen player, transitioned into football operations. Modern sporting approach. FM24-available. Head of Youth Development: Didier Tholot Former striker for Bordeaux and Nancy, strong background in youth nurturing. Tactical and FM24-available. 2. Orion Darlington FC (England) Manager: Tommy Widdrington Intense pressing style, lower-league experience, fits club’s current stature. FM24-available. Sporting Director: Paul Mitchell (Former Monaco/RB Leipzig/Spurs) Experienced, data-oriented, great for recruitment centralisation. FM24-available. Head of Youth Development: Neil Maddison Ex-Darlington player and Middlesbrough academy coach. Strong ties and youth-first mentality. FM24-available. 3. Orion Kagawa United (Japan) Manager: Masatada Ishii J-League and Asian club success, high-pressing and attacking tactics. FM24-available. Sporting Director: Tsuneyasu Miyamoto Former Japan national captain and Gamba Osaka coach. Analytical and well-respected. FM24-available. Head of Youth Development: Koji Gyotoku Japan U16 development expert. Youth-focused and tactically capable. FM24-available. 4. Orion Abidjan FC (Ivory Coast) Manager: Emerse Faé AFCON-winning interim manager, Ivorian legend. Emphasises intensity, team structure. FM24-available. Sporting Director: Didier Konan Recently retired, in FM24 as staff. Strong cultural and club tie-in. Head of Youth Development: Cyrille Domoraud Former international and academy founder. Ideal for long-term grassroots growth. FM24-available. 5. Orion Phoenix SC (USA – New MLS Expansion) Manager: Clint Dempsey (fictional hire, cultural fit) Former USMNT icon. Charismatic, aggressive style, fan-puller. Not in FM24 — so: FM24-Compatible Manager Alternative: Freddy Juarez Youth-oriented, ex-RSL manager, high-intensity football. FM24-available. Sporting Director: John Thorrington LAFC’s VP; smart recruitment, data believer. FM24-available. Head of Youth Development: Gonzalo Segares US youth coach with pressing-friendly academy style. FM24-available All clubs keep same players, pheonix start with 0. If possible Orion technologies main sponsor for each team(fictional company) Quote
Administrators Derek Posted May 29 Administrators Posted May 29 @Relvidge01 Sorry but I won't have time to make this database. This will take several days to do. Quote
Relvidge01 Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 On 29/05/2025 at 19:25, Derek said: @Relvidge01 Sorry but I won't have time to make this database. This will take several days to do. Expand @Derek cheers for getting back to me pal. If I set up most of the groundwork with the database would you be able to touch up with a few things which I am unsure on how to do, to get them to work effectively in the game and also do the graphics? Quote
Administrators Derek Posted May 30 Administrators Posted May 30 @Relvidge01 Yes I can help as much as time permits mate. Quote
Relvidge01 Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 @Derek I’ll start working on the database and attach it in here and let you know which parts you may need to have a scan over if you have time Quote
Relvidge01 Posted May 31 Author Posted May 31 @Derek HI mate, think I've pretty much sorted most stuff. I've left most kits blank as I don't know exactly what they'll look like (especially shorts and socks). I also noticed I do not have a club vision tab to make edits there which I saw on a youtube video, is this something that was on previous editors and not this one, or have I not done something which would have allowed me to see this? I have tried doing a workaround by putting everything I would like in the chairspersons and fan personal objectives and tendencies. I also struggled to create the Orion Cup (friendly tournament), when i tried to create this it took them out of their league divisions. I don't mind if that's not as detailed as what the original post said, that was just something chatgpt cooked up. I would just like an annual friendly tournament between the sides if possible? Also is there anyway of adding a team to the MLS without removing one and remaining playable? I was unsure how to do this so just added them and did not touch anything else Orion Collective.fmfFetching info... Quote
Administrators Derek Posted May 31 Administrators Posted May 31 The best I can do at the moment is use these templates I've made and change the names on each logo. Then change the logo on each kit. If your happy with that I can make the rest. 1 Quote
Relvidge01 Posted May 31 Author Posted May 31 Yea should be fine pal, just to confirm will you be able to help with any of the difficulties I had with the database? Quote
Administrators Derek Posted May 31 Administrators Posted May 31 At some point mate but for now I have to start the logo updates which will take a few days to complete. Quote
Administrators Derek Posted June 6 Administrators Posted June 6 Orion Football Collective This custom database by Football Manager Graphics sees newly formed Orion Football Collective which includes five custom teams. Orion Abidjan Orion Darlington - Replaces Darlington Orion Kagawa United Orion Lyonnais - Replaces Lyon Orion Pheonix SC Installation Instructions Download the custom database and extract the folder. Place the fmf files 'Orion Collective Part 1' and 'Orion Collective Part 2' in the directory below. Sports Interactive->Football Manager 2024->editor data Place the graphics folder in the directory below. Sports Interactive->Football Manager 2024->graphics The kits folder must be taken out of the 'Orion Football Graphics' folder and placed into the above directory. The path is also outlined below. Sports Interactive->Football Manager 2024->graphics->kits The Orion Darlington and Orion Lyonnais teams directly replace Darlington and Lyon. This means if you currently use a logo pack you will need to either remove the pack or replaces those logos within it. I would recommend backing them up first. All logos are available in the latest FMG Logo Update 8 packs across all styles. Start a new game and select databases. Ensure both 'Orion Collective Part 1' and 'Orion Collective Part 2' are selected. Then, select the leagues you wish to include and choose your team. This custom database was created by @Relvidge01 and Derek. Orion Football Collective This custom database by Football Manager Graphics sees newly formed Orion Football Collective which includes five custom teams. Orion Abidjan Orion Darlington - Replaces Darlington Orion Kagawa United Orion Lyonnais - Replaces Lyon Orion Pheonix SC Installation Instructions Download the custom database and extract the folder. Place the fmf files 'Orion Collective Part 1' and 'Orion Collective Part 2' in the directory below. Sports Interactive->Football Manager 2024->editor data Place the graphics folder in the directory below. Sports Interactive->Football Manager 2024->graphics The kits folder must be taken out of the 'Orion Football Graphics' folder and placed into the above directory. The path is also outlined below. Sports Interactive->Football Manager 2024->graphics->kits The Orion Darlington and Orion Lyonnais teams directly replace Darlington and Lyon. This means if you currently use a logo pack you will need to either remove the pack or replaces those logos within it. I would recommend backing them up first. All logos are available in the latest FMG Logo Update 8 packs across all styles. Start a new game and select databases. Ensure both 'Orion Collective Part 1' and 'Orion Collective Part 2' are selected. Then, select the leagues you wish to include and choose your team. This custom database was created by @Relvidge01 and Derek. 1 Quote
Administrators Derek Posted June 6 Administrators Posted June 6 @Relvidge01 I've completed the work above. It was a real pain to get both the annual competition and extra team in the MLS to work so I've had to add a second file which is an edited version of my Montana FC database. Anyway just load both parts and it works perfectly. As some teams were only renamed and not created from scratch if you currently use a logo pack you will need to either remove the pack or replaces those logos within it. Quote
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