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cameosis

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  1. if you mean croatian tiers, it's partly correct. 3rd tier - 2. nl (official logo with sponsor supersport) 4th tier - 3. nl (with regional groups, no official logos to my knowledge). 5th tier and lower - county leagues (dalmatia, istria, slavonia, zadar etc), some have official logos, some don't. another random bit of info: makarska is about 20 km away from omiš, my father's and ivan perišić's hometown. my father is one of the club legends there. please pick nk omiš next time. 😂😂
  2. to recap: this is a logo someone put together themselves, it’s not an alternative version. the upper part is from the old logo of the top tier from 1992-2003, see below. this is the logo for the old third tier, when it was called 3. croatian football league, group south. it’s a brilliant logo but UNOFFICIAL. it’s not the correct logo for the current 3. nl jug, either. it could serve as an unofficial logo if the »hrvatska« part was removed, however. the facebook page »3. hnl jug« was the first to use it, and they have an alternative logo as well: https://www.facebook.com/3.hnljug/?locale=de_DE the associated website is dalmatinski nogomet aka dalmatian football: https://dalmatinskinogomet.hr/ hope that clears it up.
  3. yes, as i had said. »druga« means »second«. i’m a native speaker. the fourth tier groups are right below: https://hns-cff.hr/natjecanja/3-nl-istok/ https://hns-cff.hr/natjecanja/3-nl-jug/ https://hns-cff.hr/natjecanja/3-nl-sjever/ https://hns-cff.hr/natjecanja/3-nl-centar/ https://hns-cff.hr/natjecanja/3-nl-zapad/ they don’t have official logos or a sponsor like the first three tiers and the cup competitions (supersport). croatian football pyramid as of 2023: 1st tier -- hrvatska nogometna liga (hnl) 2nd tier -- prva nogometna liga (1. nl) 3rd tier -- druga nogometna liga (2. nl) 4th tier -- treća nogometna liga (3. nl) 5th tier and below -- regional and local leagues organized by the county football associations 3. HNL (former third tier) is not the same as 3. NL (current fourth tier). i personally find the naming a big fail because people outside of croatia will be misled or confused by it. it doesn’t help that the english version of the website is really bad, too -- they call the first tier »first croatian league«, albeit in croatian it’s only called »croatian football league«, and the second tier »first football league«. then, you have the third tier as the »second football league«, but the fourth tier is called »third division«, which is incorrect -- it’s »third football league«. when 3. hnl was the third tier, there were regional groups and only the first and second tier were unified leagues. now, the first three tiers are unified leages. 3. nl, which is the current fourth tier, has pretty much the same regional groups as the old 3. hnl.
  4. association logo for ireland, the above is the team logo: https://twitter.com/FAIreland/ https://twitter.com/IrelandFootball
  5. almas roma historical logos - id 43048782:
  6. staines town historical (1970s) and concept logos - id 5100198:
  7. according to the 2022 jerseys, these seem to be the correct club colors:
  8. the logo you posted is for the youth section of port glasgow fc. the junior in the club name and both logos can be confusing, it doesn’t actually mean youth football in scotland, but amateur football. this is the correct logo for the club: https://www.facebook.com/Portonian/ story about the merger with the youth club: https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/19428783.port-glasgow-juniors-join-forces-youth-club-historic-move/ the original logo for jef united under the name jr east furukawa fc was this -- 1991 -- i believe this one should be one of the choices: they then changed the name and logo to jef united in 1993, after the foundation of the j. league:
  9. alternatives (initial, historical versions) for the top level league
  10. here they are, @AndreaSSL1900
  11. the second one is unoffical, the upper element was part of the very old logo for the (real) first league, someone just added it. 3. hnl jug logo is historical and unofficial as well, when it was third tier. now it’s fourth tier and just named »3. nogometna liga«, they dropped the »hrvatska« (croatian). i’ll upload current logos for clubs and competitions as i sift through my collection in the coming future. i had posted the supersport branded logos in the thread earlier, will look up the pages when i’m back home.
  12. vector format: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/Lamontville_Golden_Arrows_logo.svg
  13. the italian logos in very high resolution from the federation website: illustrator vector format of the federation logo: https://www.figc.it/media/147281/logo-figc.zip historical logos in very high resolution: https://www.figc.it/it/federazione/mission-e-governance/la-storia/la-storia-del-logo/
  14. bigger resolution: historical:
  15. historical logo: https://www.indehekken.net/kv-sint-gillis-het-einde-nadert/
  16. CROATIAN HISTORICAL / ALTERNATIVE / OBSOLETE LOGOS - LEAGUE COMPETITIONS: 129645 - 1 129645 - 2 129646 - 1 129646 - 2
  17. CROATIAN HISTORICAL / ALTERNATIVE / OBSOLETE LOGOS WITHOUT IDS: Nogometni Klub Hajdin Cret Bizovački Nogometni Klub Hrebinec Unione Sportiva Fiumana - one of the predecessors of Hrvatski Nogometni Klub Rijeka Nogometni Klub Iskra Janjina Nogometni Klub Dalmatinac Jelsa Nogometni Klub Graničar Klakar Nogometni Klub Hajduk Radovčići Nogometni Klub Matija Gubec Kutina Nogometni Klub Croatia Stara Subocka Športski Nogometni Klub Slavonija Brestača Nogometni Klub »Fortuna« Vatrogasno Naselje Osijek Hrvatski Nogometni Klub Krilnik Split Nogometni Klub Croatia Stankovci - 1 Nogometni Klub Croatia Stankovci - 2 Nogometni Klub Croatia Tisovac Nogometni Klub Plavi 9 Prekopa 1975 Nogometni Klub Sloga Brezje Športski Nogometni Klub Ajax Luka-Komarnica Ludbreška - 1 Športski Nogometni Klub Ajax Luka-Komarnica Ludbreška - 2 Športski Nogometni Klub Ajax Luka-Komarnica Ludbreška - 3 Nogometni Klub Hajduk Vera Hrvatski Nogometni Klub Borovo-Vukovar Hrvatski Nogometni Klub Mitnica Vukovar Hrvatski Športski Klub Concordia Zagreb Hrvatski Športski Klub Ilirija Zagreb Nogometni Klub Sava Jakuševec Nogometni Klub Croatia Pojatno
  18. this is the correct current logo of concordia zagreb - 5746627. the logo listed on sortitoutsi belongs to the original club which was dissolved after world war two and is incorrect. the modern concordia is not related to the original club, in spite of appropriating the old name and logo.
  19. the following story is a bit complicated/bizarre, but not unusual in croatia and especially dalmatia … : on sortitoutsi, there is a club nk mosor in the database. the logo listed is the one for the comparatively recently founded club. there is another one, the »original« nk mosor, called hbdnk mosor - sveti jure, founded in 1929. they both share the same grounds and their club facilities are opposite each other. žrnovnica is both a river and a settlement which administratively belongs to the city of split -- the eels are a local specialty and delicacy, found in the river; mosor is one of the big mountains. the founders and supporters of nk mosor, the new club, were unhappy and antagonized by the way the president and main financial sponsor of hbdnk mosor was managing the club, pretty much as if it was his private property. most of the local population supports the new club, which had major problems to get access to the grounds because of the president’s antics. the historical logo is of the original nk mosor (old pin, 1970s/1980s), not the new one, so i’m listing it without id until it’s clear which club is actually in the database.
  20. the current logo for the youth club nk inker looks like this: https://icz.hr/2022/08/22/novi-vizual-kluba-nk-inker/
  21. CROATIAN HISTORICAL / ALTERNATIVE / OBSOLETE LOGOS: id numbers: 430 - gradient version 432 - 1 - 1980s/1990s 432 - 2 - early 2000s 433 - 1 - 1940s 433 - 2 - 1950/1960s 435 437 - 1 437 - 2 -> note: 659403 is the same club - nk inter - , not sure why it was assigned two id numbers. the old name nk inker is an abbreviation for the company that used to sponsor the club (INdustrija KERamike). after the company ended the sponsorship, the club was renamed to nk inTer. when the club was dissolved last year, a successor club was founded, taking up the old name nk inKer again. currently, they are a youth football club, but there are plans to eventually return to senior / adult football competitions. 440 - 1980s 441 - used for promotional purposes 442 444 - 1 - 1980s 444 - 2 - first version after the logo was redesigned 447 106749 - 1 106749 - 2 126417 -> note: the correct historical logo used on jerseys or club documents. the version on sortitoutsi is incorrect. 126427 129829 129847 129859 - 1 129859 - 2 129859 - 3 - gradient version 129874 - 1 129874 - 2 129875 - 1 - 1960s 129875 - 2 - 1960s 129880 - 1 129880 - 2 129880 - 3 129885 129888 - 1 129888 - 2 -> note: an alternative / historical version. it’s listed on sortitoutsi, but it’s incorrect. 653168 - 1 - 1980s 653168 - 2 653169 - 1970s / 1980s 655461 658299 658353 - 2017/2018 during the club’s partnership with spanish club alavés 658354 - gradient version 661544 1300241 1300245 - 1980s 24002586 - 1980s - 2000s 24008263 - 1980s 24015703 - gradient version 24016499 24016518 - 1990s - 2000s 24024682 - 1 24024682 - 2 24043136 24043140 24059986 - 1 - 1980s 24059986 - 2 - 1990s 24063700
  22. svg file from the club website: i hope i can get around to correcting the typography of the logo sometime soon. the letters are from two different font styles, urgh … makes my eyes bleed. font is bauhaus, by the way:

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